Wendy Landau, a representative of the Human Rights Commission, said that this forty percent figure includes 18-year-olds with those who are under 18 (the official definition of a child in South Africa). She added that between June 1987 and June 1988, children constituted twenty percent of the 5,000 people detained under that state of emergency, and that between June 1988 and June 1989, they represented ten percent of the 3,000 emergency detainees held (personal communication, 7 June 1989).